I hope this will be the last of this sort of entry for a good, long time

[bunniewabbit.livejournal.com]

The goal of this community is to give people the tools and knowledge they need to seek out images and news about Elijah Wood, and to provide a place for them to post those items to share with the rest of the community. It is not and never has been a place to debate any aspect of his personal life. There are other and more appropriate forums for that.

Having a negative opinion is not against the rules. Making an occasional negative comment isn't even against the rules (as long as it's politely put). However, stating that negative opinion at every possible opportunity, over and over again and in a negative fashion, and seeking (whether intentional or not) to provoke reactions and arguments from others is against the rules.

If you can't see the harm being done to the community by such behavior, and its potential for ruining a pretty darn good thing that we've got here, then I'm sorry, but you don't belong here. If your comments, by their nature or tone, are making those who are contributing content to the comm either want to delete their entries or not post at all, then they are not welcome here. Fair or unfair, I can't allow anything that is interfering with the goal of the community; if there is something that is making people wary of posting their "finds" here, then the community can't succeed and I need to try to find a way to repair it so that it can.

The rules are there for a reason. You may not like them, but if you can't follow them, then you can't be a part of this community.

I know there are those of you out there with opinions that differ from the majority of people here, and I appreciate that you have been taking them elsewhere to discuss them rather than putting them here where they are likely to spark conflict. I know it's hard to hold them in check, and it isn't fair to you, but thank you from the bottom of my heart for following the rules in order to keep the community running as smoothly as possible.

It really is impossible to be fair to everyone, without either disallowing comments entirely or letting them run rampant, and I believe both of those options would ultimately harm the community. All I can really do is try to keep the disruptive elements to a minimum, and I'm taking steps toward that end. A few people have been banned from commenting (membership hasn't been removed -- yet*), and a few others are on probation. I'm sorry that it's come to this, but there you are.

* Turns out I did accidentally remove you from membership (I think -- I'm new at this), and I have no way of reinstating you on my own. If you would like to request membership again, I will add you back in. Terribly sorry about that!

Comments

[hobbitlove83.livejournal.com]

Awww, Bunnie, what brought this on?

Did you have to delete troll's comments?

I do hope that didn't disencourage you-
this is the most wonderful Elijah com I have ever seen;
thanks to it I've seen the most gorgeous of Elijah pics,
and have met lovely Elijahlovers...

long may it live!!!

(((bunnie)))

[bunniewabbit.livejournal.com]

No, no deleting. I've finally felt the need to ban a few people from commenting, unfortunately. We'll see how it goes.

[frodos-smile.livejournal.com]

Bless you, bunnie, and you have my heartfelt empathy for having to deal with such a difficult issue. You've done a wonderful job, and you have my full support. As has already been said, this is the best Elijah community bar none... and I applaud you for doing everything you can to keep it that way!

[wakerobin.livejournal.com]

Thanks for all your hard work and apologies for you having to go through this. Well done. Don't be mad at me, but can I request that you lovingly suggest that the positive folks tone down the "gushing" (e.g., omg they are SO in love, aren't they ..beautiful, perfect, fill in the blank... together!) It's a bit off-putting. That's it..thank you again, bless and I'll go sit quietly now. Here's hoping we see Mr. W. at the Independent Spirit Awards.

[bunniewabbit.livejournal.com]

I will try to remind people not to enthuse quite so much; I know it can be hard to hear that sort of thing when you're from a different side of the fence.

[foxriver.livejournal.com]

You are honestly one of the most level-headed people in all of the fandoms I am a part of and I completely respect everything you have said and done about this situation. Thanks for maintaining this community and not throwing your hands up despair from the get-go.

[serai1.livejournal.com]

It's not about fair, honey. Your house, your rules. Ain't nothing wrong with that. If people can't behave like adults, they should go play in a sandbox somewhere.

*hug*

[mews1945.livejournal.com]

Just to say thank you for creating and maintaining the community, Bunnie, and I support you.

[ginny101.livejournal.com]

I think you have handled everything beautifully. I'm sorry for all your troubles. Just know that your efforts are appreciated.

[cat-luvs-guysx2.livejournal.com]

Whether I, or others, agree or disagree, the fact is that this is YOUR community and you have the right to call the shots, set the rules, and make judgment calls, be they fair or unfair.

[bunniewabbit.livejournal.com]

Thank you. And you're one of the people who I know keeps their opinions to themselves, so I must double the thanks. I'm truly sorry that it must be that way here, but unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out any way to let everyone speak their mind and still keep the peace. :/

[elanorgardner.livejournal.com]

I agree with serai1, your house, your rules. And actually, if someone doesn't like the rules or doesn't want to abide by them, they can always go build a community and create rules they can abide by.

I realize I don't speak up much here. Mostly I just stay quiet and enjoy keeping up with an actor and a young man who I admire and whose career I want to follow. The only reason I speak up in situations like this is because I think this is when the mod needs to hear from the community members who support her decisions.

Thanks Bunnie. Now, bring on the pics and the news! Where IS the man?

(Edited to correct punctuation!)

[nasturtium-leas.livejournal.com]

It had to be done, Bunnie. Good for you!

You do such a wonderful job with this friendly community. It's worth protecting. :)

[westmoon.livejournal.com]

I hope your head feels better, and that someone somewhere spoils you rotten in the next few days, or at the very least pours you a big glass of wine and gives you a back rub.

[rakshi.livejournal.com]

You do what you need to do to keep this wonderful community going strong. It's one of the finest communities on LJ and I applaud you for defending it.

You have our support!

Love..

what the heck

[overlithe64.livejournal.com]

oh...Alright I'll be good....

I know I've been guilty of a few off putting arguments...though I didn't start em..I just tend to want to finish em.

Seriously though I did not participate here for a very long time and though I haven't been here all that long I find it to be in general the most informative and active Elijah information source I've seen.

So sorry that something got ugly, I must have missed it...busy basking in the glow....sigh.

As to the poster who asks that gushing be kept at a minimum because it is also was off putting....I'm not sure I agree but I leave that up to the keeper of the journal.

Re: what the heck

[nasturtium-leas.livejournal.com]

Good thing you missed it! Off running around with Elijah himself!

I know I've been guilty of a few off putting arguments...though I didn't start em..I just tend to want to finish em.

It wasn't you,Over, at all. Some old 'friends' caused a fuss over the same old thing they have everywhere. You may remember 'quietly discussing things' with them in another location. ;)

I DO think we are allowed to gush over Elijah at any time. It's too much gushing over 'you know who' that seems to bother some folks.

[harukameko.livejournal.com]

Thanks, Bunnie, for all you do to keep this community positive, and a great place to come to for Elijah info and pictures.

[(Anonymous)]

This is my first time posting, I'm usually just enjoying the pictures! I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy and appreciate your site and all your hard work. You have my heartfelt support.

[bunniewabbit.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I do appreciate hearing that. I'm glad you like it here!

[frodomyhero.livejournal.com]

This is a bright space.......... keep the light going Bunny....... and thank you ......from the bottom of my heart
"hugs"

[primula-baggins.livejournal.com]

Wow, I guess there are good things about being so swamped at work that I couldn't check out LJ-land. Sorry it's been so stinky of late. Keep your chin up!

[alchemie.livejournal.com]

♥

[chickenlegs-11.livejournal.com]

You have such a tough job but I'm really glad you have done what you can to keep the peace AND let us all enjoy as much Elijah goodness as possible - WHOEVER he's with. *hugs*

[maddeningpadme.livejournal.com]

bunnie, important question. can you elaborate on your reason not to just ban all pam comments whatsoever (positive, negative, gushing, hating. ban ALL of them, the whole lot of them)? I'm asking because I don't see how that can't be an option. to me it seems like that would solve a LOT of the conflict. both "sides" would be happy. I just want to understand why you don't see this as an option. of course there are always a few bad apples that try to cause trouble no matter what - just ban them (good that you seem to have done so). they clearly will not respect your rules no matter what so don't give them anymore chances (you've given them plenty of chances to stop) because they've proven that they won't respect your rules. but i still feel like just disallowing pam comments altogether could help end some of this endless fighting.

I have hated all the fighting here. I've hated it. that is why I gave you the suggestions I gave - a possible solution to ending (or at least lessening) all the fighting going on. I can't even tell you how much it hurts my heart to see all this fighting that has gone on in this comm for over a year. it hurts to see a fandom that I (used to? :\) love so divided with so much arguing. to be honest, I hated all of this fighting nonsense so much that it made me question whether I even wanted to be a part of this comm anymore. that's why I tried to give you possible solutions to clearing up all this fighting nonsense. I'd like to see peace in this comm & peace in this fandom.

but, I just hope you appreciate that, there are a few of us who may not agree with some of your rules or course of action, but we are really only trying to help. to give you a suggestion to consider - for the purpose of helping this community & helping keep the peace. for the purpose of keeping this community positive & bettering it. at least, for me that is why I speak my mind on the things that I do. I don't have an opinion on pam one way or the other, I am on no "side." I just think it's ridiculous that the fighting in this comm has escalated this far, and I hope it's pretty much over now. all this negativity has put a bad atmosphere on this comm, and I don't like that. I don't want there to be all this distress. I want it to be *fun* again.

anyway, just keep your head held high! I do my best to respect your rules, whether or not I agree that they are the best course of action to prevent the fighting. it's your community. you have my prayers :) I can't imagine the massive headache you must have from all this in the last few days. whew. I definitely did not expect all this to happen after I first posted my comment to you on this very same topic several days ago, before this explosion even happened (I haven't been here in a few days). I'd appreciate a reply to this whenever you're up to it. thanks :) I may send you that private msg.

[ourdramaqueen.livejournal.com]

If I may jump in here - I think karin_woywod's comment here (http://community.livejournal.com/elijah_finds/400305.html?thread=8050609#t8050609) may answer your question - I suspect that Bunnie doesn't want to do that for much those reasons. (I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong. :))

[grean.livejournal.com]

Seems I missed something. I joined this community first because of Elijah and then because of you bunnie. You try so hard to keep things from escalating into the utter silliness I have seen in other Elijah communities.
This is your community, you posted the rules and those who joined should know them by now. They aren't difficult just common sense and courtesy towards others.
Thank you bunnie for all the hard work. Sorry I don't say it more often.

[neuce61.livejournal.com]

bunnie, I don't comment very often here, but I love to read the entries in this community and appreciate this great site you've created. My heartfelt thanks for doing all that you do. *kisses*

[rosiegamgee.livejournal.com]

I've been staring at the screen for like 15 minutes trying to find the right words to say, and I think all I have is thank you for everything. You, and this community, are gold.

[jade-baggins.livejournal.com]

I'm just glad there is someone like you who moderates an awesome community like this one and keep it together as a whole for our enjoyment. So many other communities, message boards, post boards go to shit because the moderator doesn't want to enforce his/her own rules.

Bravo Bunnie. Tell it how it is.

[starlit-woods.livejournal.com]

I was told about this by a friend and I haven't read all of the comments, just some and that's made my migraine worse ;P

But I wanted to say something after reading your comments in this post. You said:

If your comments are making those who are contributing content to the comm either want to delete their entries or not post at all, then they are not welcome here...if there is something that is making people wary of posting their "finds" here, then the community can't succeed and I need to try to find a way to repair it so that it can.

And I agree with that. But I think it's very important that this be administered fairly if you want it to succeed.

As you know I left this community because of comments from you and a couple of your friends. The way you all behaved made me feel unwanted here and because your comments were carried over to elijah_daily I've been wary since then of posting anything anywhere, and now I don't post anything at all. Last year after it happened I deleted every post I'd made in this community and left it, and I did that solely because of the way I was treated by you and the other two people. I'm not saying any of this to bring up old stuff because, for anyone else who might read this Bunnie and one of the other people apologised to me when I confronted them about their behaviour, I'm not doing this for any reason other than to say to you Bunnie that I think it's important to hold yourself and your friends to the same standards and rules that everyone else in this community is held to. Bad/rude/negative behaviour is not a good thing, but it's not just limited to the people who don't like Pam Racine (though obviously that's a big part of it), it also relates to any kind of bad/negative behaviour and I think that it shouldn't be allowed.

As far as I know no one was given any 'warning' or threats of being banned from commenting after what happened to me. The people who apologised only did so after I confronted them about their behaviour and I think all members of the community deserve to feel like they're free from attack even by the comm's owner and their friends. Maybe you disagree, and it is your community so you're free to do that, but perhaps the other members need to know that.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to have a say on anything here in this community since I left it, so by all means feel free to tell me to sod off, but I felt that the reason I left was pretty much the same issues you were covering in this post so I hope you don't mind me giving my two cents worth.

Good luck with it all, I don't run any communities and I'm pretty glad I don't because it must be a lot of extra stress for you. I hope you can see though that on the whole the majority of your community members are good people who don't give any grief, so don't let the vocal few get you down! :)

[maddeningpadme.livejournal.com]

"As far as I know no one was given any 'warning' or threats of being banned from commenting after what happened to me."
wait what happened?? what do you mean?